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Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Thailand Scams

We've read about this a lot before our trip. Mostly concerning taxis and tuktuks. What I'm going to share is from our own experience. I'm warning you this is going to be looonggg because this is my way of ranting XD.

Taxi Scam

Our first destination was at Khao San road to exchange money then we'll head to Grand Palace.
The first taxi we hailed doesn't want to use the meter so we arranged for a fixed price. There were six of us and thinking about it now I don't know how we fit in a single car (^_^)V. We agreed to pay THB200 for all so around THB33 each. We kept telling him our destination was at Khao San Road. And he kept insisting it was closed and wanted to bring us somewhere else. So we told him to stop and we got off and hailed another taxi. This time, the taxi driver was actually nice and brought us to our destination.
The rest of the taxis don't want to use the meter. If you're not in a hurry just wait for the next taxi who will agree to use the meter.

Grand Palace Scam

We walked from Khao San Road to Grand Palace. On our way in the middle of the park, an old man with a companion greeted us and asked where we're from. So we told him we're from the Philippines.
OM: "oh! Pacquiao!"
US: "yes!" (>_<)
The park where we met OM

He told us he's with his brother who is visiting him from the province. He asked us where we're headed and we told him we're on the way to the Grand Palace.
OM: "oh no.. Grand Palace is closed. Bhuddist New Year today."
US: <disappointed>"oh okay we'll just go to Wat Pho then.."
OM: "no.. Grand Palace and other temples are closed today. Buddhist New Year today. It is only open now for Thai Locals and Buddhist Monks. Closed for tourists. It will open only at 2pm for tourist. But! You can go to chao phraya river tour instead while waiting for Grand Palace to open. You see if you ask people what's the most beautiful temple in Bangkok they say Grand Palace! No! Wat Arun Yes! If you go now you can see Wat Arun for free only today since Buddhist New Year. Then you'll see Big Buddha Buddha Buddha. Then tigers RAWR! Then Kings Museum all for free only today because buddhist new year."
The map OM drew

Yes I memorized his freakin script because I was so freakin pissed at him plus he said all that on rewind while drawing a map. That was actually just the gist of what he said. ("-_-)

His cover was that he was a teacher from a university so he knows all this and that after the trip we can tell our friends we've seen it all (Thailand Landmarks). Oh we've seen it alright! Including the scamming scumbags.
OM holding the umbrella and his Brother on the right with shades

So we asked how we're going to avail of the tour. He said we just have to ride a long tail boat which would take us to the tour. The rent of the long tail boat was THB600 each! and the rest is for free and no entrance fees today since it was buddhist new year. He told us it was just near so we started walking.. But he said we can take a tuktuk. He even gave us advice to choose the color of the tuktuk because they are government owned and is cheaper.
2 tuktuks were conveniently parked outside the park. He called them and pretended to negotiate in Thai.
He introduced us as his students and negotiated for us to pay THB10 per tuktuk. This is how we get to ride the tuktuk so you see it's not a very nice experience.
The tuktuk took us to the long tail boat and so we sailed in the river. Imagine sailing at pasig river in a long tail boat less the garbage. We passed by Wat Arun, the boat stopped for us to take pictures. Then we moved again.

There was a very small floating market but it was raining and the vendors were taking cover so we didn't stop by.

Then we passed by some temples but didn't stop. My colleague asked "Where are the tigers?" The boatman said "Later". Until the tour came to end and we didn't see anything except maybe for some really big iguanas (bayawak). ("-_-)

That's when we realized we were actually scammed. :'(

To confirm our theory we went to the Grand Palace. He said it would only open at 2pm and it was just around 12:30pm so it should still be closed.
The other gates were closed. When we found one open, there were a few people at the gate who also told us it was closed. Then he asked us if we have been to chao praya river tour. If it wasn't fishy enough, we saw the old man at the park talking to another group of unsuspecting tourist.

So we walked to find the real entrance to the Grand Palace just to see for ourselves that it was open and it was not closed at all today. XD At that point I was really seething. I wanted to report them to the police. But my colleague pointed out we were in a different country and we don't know who we should report this to. So here I am ranting in my blog just because...

Ping Pong

I was really determined to watch this so I can blog it. I thought I came prepared after reading all the scams that they could possibly pull on us. But after what happened at the Grand Palace, I chickened out. Why? Most of the scams I've read about ping pong shows is that they will offer you to watch it for THB200 but after the show you'll be shocked to see your bill in thousands of bhat. And when you don't pay.. well I don't think anything good will come of it. Being in a foreign country. We don't have Thai locals as company so we thought it was better to pass this time to avoid trouble.

I console myself by telling myself the following:
1. We got to experience riding a tuktuk for only THB10.
2. I got 2 decent shots out of it.
3. I learned my lesson and got to share it with everyone else.

Now I feel soo much better. (^_^) The floating lanterns and the elephants really helped me in moving on and letting this bad experience pass.

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Thailand Adventure

This is probably the most expensive trip I've ever been to. We got scammed, we missed the floating market and didn't get to watch ping pong (~○~). But despite all that, this is indeed the best trip I've had.. yet.. Why?? Continue reading to find out.

We planned this almost two years ago, yep you read that right. Two freakin years ago! From 16pax we were trimmed down to 8pax during the actual trip. The purpose of the trip was to attend the free mass release of floating lanterns at Chiang Mai but again we missed it. It turns out the day of the mass release was not on the night of Loy Krathong / Yee Peng which was when we scheduled and booked our trip.

Flight

We booked our flights via 3 different airlines.
Manila to Bangkok - Cebu Pacific (around PHP1500)
Bangkok to Chiang Mai to Bangkok - Air Asia (around PHP5500)
Bangkok to Manila - Philippine Airlines (around PHP5500)

You can also take a train to and from Chiang Mai from Bangkok but you have to make reservations at least 1 month before your trip. Taking the train is cheaper (PHP1000 per way) but travel time takes around 12 hours and we were advised against taking the trains by some friends in Thailand as just weeks before there was a 13 year old girl raped and killed in the train and note that she has companions.


Out of the 3 airlines, PAL was the most expensive but was the most comfortable. Air Asia's seats were cramped. Cebu Pacific was okay. In short, you get what you pay for.

These flights alone already costs us around PHP12500. (>_<)

Itinerary

We have 3 days to spend in Bangkok and 2 days in Chiang Mai. You'd think 5 days was enough but no! We barely slept but there's still things we weren't able to do. Anyway, here's a copy of our itinerary. It's not updated though so I'll try to share as much detail as I can remember here.

Money Exchange

Again BDO has the best rates than any money changers around but since we don't have BDO accounts. We exchanged just enough money at the airport for transportation until we find some money changers in Bangkok.

Do not exchange your money in Thai banks!

Rate Comparison 1 PHP to THB (November 2014)
BDO = ~.73
Sanry's = ~.67
PH Airport = .65
All Thai Banks = .5
Super-rich (main) = .71
Super-rich (others) = .69

As you can see, best rate is at BDO, then at Super-rich main branch. The main branch is just walking distance from Chidlom or Siam BTS station near Big C.

Most money changers open at 9:00 - 9:30 am and closes around 5:00 - 6:00 pm so plan accordingly. The Super-rich branch in Khao San opens past 11:00 am.
Super-rich at Khao San road is across the Police station near 7 eleven. The one with the orange sign.

They also say withdrawal from ATMs have good rates plus this is the most convenient way to change your money. At least better than exchanging from Thai banks. But each transaction has a processing fee of THB180 so as much as possible withdraw the maximum allowable limit. Also call your bank before leaving the country to make sure your ATM card will work abroad.

Accommodation

Most of us stayed at Wendy House in Bangkok. It is just a few walking distance from National Stadium BTS. It is quite old and has no elevator but for the price was affordable compared to the other hotels or guesthouses around the area. It was clean and nice and serves free yummy breakfast. We booked it via Agoda. It's my first time booking with Agoda and it turned out okay. We had some cancellations and moving of dates here and there and they processed it quite nicely. We paid around PHP3500 per pax for 4 nights stay.
Twin Room

Guesthouse lobby/ Breakfast hall

In Chiang Mai, we stayed at IMM Hotel which was conveniently located in front of Thaphae gate where the lantern parade will start.

I didn't like their service though. We informed them beforehand we were arriving early. We waited almost two hours after regular check-in time before we got our rooms.

Transportation

If you're traveling alone or by pairs, navigating via BTS would be cheaper. But if you're traveling by groups, metered taxi's would be cheaper.

Travel via BTS
There are 2 BTS lines, the Sukhumvit and Silom line. It would be convenient to get a hotel where the two lines meet (at Siam station). You can buy a rabbit card which is like their stored value ticket for THB200. The card itself costs THB50 and contains THB150 credit. You can refund unused credit before leaving. You can also buy single journey tickets at the station.

Travel via Taxi
Most taxis won't agree to use the meter when you ride in groups. But if you're alone or by pairs, they would most likely use the meter.
Comparison
National Stadium BTS to Khao San road with 4 passengers
without meter = THB200 for all / 4 = THB50 each
with meter = THB75 for all / 4 = ~THB20 each
THB50 each doesn't look expensive but you're still better off with taxis using a meter.

If the taxi doesn't want to use a meter, negotiate a fixed price before riding. And specifically tell them where you want to go and use Google maps to check if they're taking you to the right direction.

Travel via TukTuk


We only ride the tuktuk when we got scammed so it doesn't count hehe. I've heard tuktuks are expensive since they are usually used by tourists.


Food

Pad Thai, Curry, Kao Soi chicken, Rotee with Banana and Nutella, Mango with Sticky rice, Coconut Ice Cream.. all yummy!! I love their food all spicy and salty. We didn't try the insects though. Just seeing the scorpions on sticks sold at Khao San Road makes me shiver. Oh wait we tried the dried worms and it was actually okay.. crunchy and salty.
Kao Soi Chicken (must try dish in Chiang Mai)

Mango with sticky rice

Dried Worms

Rotee with Banana and Nutella

Attractions

Day 1 - Bangkok Temples 
     First day in Bangkok and we already got scammed. But this is a story for another time. I'll be writing a separate blog for this.
     When you think about going to temples you would probably think it's boring. But hey every temple has it's history and it helps to be aware of it so that somehow you understand why such a place was built in the first place. Understanding it's history makes you appreciate it's beauty.

    Grand Palace



    When you search for top tourist attractions in Bangkok, this is probably almost always on top of the list. If you're out of time and can only squeeze a few hours for sight seeing, this is the place to go. Entrance is THB500. It's a big place so you should allot 2-3 hours for this place. Going here will already give you your fair share of temples in Bangkok. This is where you'll find the emerald Buddha and the official residence of the King of Siam.

    Wat Pho Phra


    This is home to the longest reclining Buddha. It is really overwhelming when you get to see it in person.

    Wat Arun


    We didn't climb up Wat Arun because it was raining and stairs were steep and slippery (I assume). But it is one of the most popular faces of Bangkok. I would love to take a picture with the setting sun at Wat Arun someday. It is really beautiful day or night. 

    Khao San Road

    Stores starts opening past 11:00 am. But the place really comes alive at night. Don't shop here! You can buy the pants with elephant prints here for THB300 when it only actually costs THB100. It's a nice place to have a few drinks with friends. They say you can find the best Pad Thais here. There are also vendors going around selling edible insects, worms and scorpions on sticks.

Day 2 - Bangkok    

    Ayutthaya





   We rented bicycles to get around the place. Which was really fun and probably the cheapest way (THB40) if not for the scorching heat. So it is very much advisable to bring sun blocks, sun glasses and some more protection from the sun. Most of the artifacts are in ruins or with severed heads from the Burmese invasion. Each temple has an entrance fee of THB50 so we just entered the temples we liked. I would love to visit SukhoThai as well if given the time. Since the ruins are more preserved there than in Ayutthaya. Both are UNESCO sites.  



    Patpong Night Market
    Another night market with tourist prices. But you can find good deals here if you know where to look. This is where you can watch ping pong shows. Someone will approach you offering the show for THB200. I would love to watch the show but I was afraid we'll get scammed again and forced to pay thousands for the show. Maybe I'll watch this with a Thai local as companion to avoid getting scammed. Of all the markets we've been to and if you're not going to Chiang Mai, for me this will be a good place to buy pasalubong. Just be ready with your bargaining skills. Shirts and pants should only cost around THB100 anything higher than that is a no go.
 
Day 3 - Chiang Mai    

    Best day ever! This is my favorite day in our trip :) For comparison purposes, Bangkok is like Manila, Chiang Mai is like Baguio and Doi Suthep is like Sagada. Chiang Mai is very reserved and peaceful. Away from the bustling city of Bangkok. If you just want to relax, have a good massage and try some cheap but really good food, this is the place to go.

    Doi Suthep

    The story behind Doi Suthep is really interesting. A relic was placed at the back of a white elephant and let it take it's course so they'll know where the relic should be placed. So the elephant climbed on top of the hill trumpeted and turned around three times, knelt down and died.  Just like the Grand Palace, it is the one temple you shouldn't miss in Chiang Mai.

You can also see the city below from here or a sea of clouds.

300+ steps up to Doi Suthep



    Night Bazaar

    Now this is the place where you should buy pasalubong. Scarfs and Tshirts and pants and bags for THB100 or less when you buy in bulk.


    Yi Peng




    This is what made our day magical. Missing the mass release of the floating lanterns, we comforted ourselves knowing we can still witness and participate in the Yi Peng night. Where you light a candle and set the krathongs to float in the river. It is such a wonderful sight. But to our surprise, hundreds of tourists also lighted lanterns and set it to float in the sky. If you've watched the movie tangled, that is exactly how it looks like. Magical. According to wiki, the candle venerates the Buddha with light and the floating symbolizes letting go of past transgressions and negative thoughts.
 
Day 4 - Chiang Mai    


    Baan Chang Elephant Park


    My second favorite activity is bonding with these gentle giants and experience being a mahout ( Elephant Trainer) for a single day. I'll be writing more of my experience here in a separate blog.



    Chatuchak Weekend Market (Bangkok)
    The famous night market in Bangkok. I have around THB8000 and spent THB5000 for all the tours and food so far. So I have THB3000 left to shop. You can find almost everything here if you know where to look. If you want it, buy it, because it's hard to go back where you've already been. I don't know If we weren't just looking hard enough but I wanted to buy the pants with elephant prints and only found 2 stores selling it for THB150 each when they were selling it for THB100 outside the gates of the Grand Palace. I bought 4 pieces and was able to haggle the price down to THB110 (>_<). We also didn't find stores selling I love Bangkok shirts and scarfs here. So really, if you want to buy those things, try the stores near Grand Palace.
 
Day 5 - Bangkok  

     We originally scheduled this day to go to the floating market, but some of us have early flights and won't have enough time. And really, with the floating lanterns and the elephants, I wouldn't care less if I missed the floating market. That's how much we enjoyed it. :)

      So with a lot of time to spare, we resorted to.. of course shopping ^_^. We went to Platinum mall this time which was just like an air conditioned Chatuchak.

We bought our pasalubongs outside the mall on the side walks with stalls selling I love Bangkok shirts and scarfs and others. We also went to Big C grocery to buy the famous Nestea Milk Tea which tastes like Thai Milk Tea.

So that's how we spent our week in Thailand. \(^_^ )/ Didn't expect it to be this long. But I just wanted to share my experience with others :)

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